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<DIV>As a veteran of 35 years as a Human Resources Executive ( aka Personnel) here's some info for all to consider. The original question on employers questionnaire's shows the intent of discovery at the onset of Racial data collection. We were all taught to remember the key categories by the easy tickler C-O-I-N-S.......Caucasian, Oriental, Indian (India), Negro, Spanish (of non-American descent). "Political correctness" eventually took over and COINS was replaced by a variety of descriptors. When someone asked the question, "what do I select if I am of mixed race?" the instructions were to select the one category you prefer most to be identified with. The data was used to calculate the population mix on the job compared to the population mix of a specific region to detect if adverse impact was at play i.e.....if the region consisted of 20% Negro and you only employed 10% Negro...you were instructed by the law to make favorable changes to your hiring practices to overcome this "adverse impact" on society. All of this came out of the Human Rights Act which originated in the 60's.</DIV>
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<DIV>The term Spanish of non-American descent created a flap at times as you might well imagine. For example what would you call a Negro from Spain or a Caucasian from Africa as was posed in the earlier examples. In Human Resources they were counted as Negro and Caucasian unless they specifically chose to be identified as Spanish and Negro which very rarely occurred.</DIV>
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<DIV>One other interesting point was that the only true Americans...the American Indian were not categorized or counted on any of the early employer reports since they were all officially counted by the Bureau of Indian Affairs and were not an employment concern since the treaties specific to each tribe were what drove those issues.</DIV>
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<DIV>Just provided as an FYI...not intended to nit-pick or debate other comments.</DIV>
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<DIV>Bill "Curly" Harman</DIV>
<DIV>BHS 1962</DIV>
<DIV>Eatonton, GA </DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>From:</B></I> <A href="mailto:bullr@earthlink.net">Richard Bull</A></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>Date:</B></I> 6/12/2007 9:53:08 AM</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>To:</B></I> <A href="mailto:lions-l@baker.hs.org">The Baker Lions' Mailing List</A>; <A href="mailto:lions-l@baker.hs.org">lions-l@baker.hs.org</A></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>Subject:</B></I> Re: [Lions-l] correct political paradox</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>The question does not address the "biology" of mixed "race" people very well. It is intended more as a sociological definition or "Who / whom do you identify yourself with? As America continues to move forward, we can hope that this nosey question is no longer any part of the government's business. </DIV>
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<DIV>Richard Bull</DIV>
<DIV>1959</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=WillTraw@aol.com href="mailto:WillTraw@aol.com"></A></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To: </B><A title=lions-l@baker.hs.org href="mailto:lions-l@baker.hs.org">lions-l@baker.hs.org</A></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 6/11/2007 11:51:08 PM </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Lions-l] correct political paradox</DIV>
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<DIV>Hello George,</DIV>
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<DIV>As the word <EM>race</EM> has a number of meanings, it was perfectly legitimate for the young lady to identify herself in either one of several different categories (African, African American, Anglo, Kenyan (if she came from Kenya), White, etc.). Check the meaning of race in the dictionary. If you are filling in a blank on a questionnaire, without knowing what alternatives you are to choose from, you cannot be faulted for writing in something that might be unexpected. Race does not necessarily identify the color of one's skin. It might indicate your national origin (American), the continent of your ancestors (Asian, European), the geographic origin of your ancestors (Eskimos), etc. People preparing questionnaires should be aware of the different meanings of the word race and not ask such open-ended questions. Nevertheless, I suspect the young lady was perhaps making a political statement indicating that her sympathies lie with b! lack people whose origins were in Africa. And she should have known that the questionnaire was probably just trying to identify the color of her skin.</DIV>
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<DIV>Hope you don't think this is just nit-picking.</DIV>
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<DIV>Willis Trawick '56</DIV>
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